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Episodes

Thursday Jan 28, 2021
Ep. 2 - Cops, Crisis Calls and Conflict Over Who Should Help (Season 2)
Thursday Jan 28, 2021
Thursday Jan 28, 2021
The debate over public safety is filled with disagreements, but almost everyone agrees on one thing: We need another option for people in crisis.
In this episode of This Changes Everything’s focus on defunding the police, reporter David Kroman rides along with Sandlin Grayson, a member of the Seattle Police Department Crisis Response Team, to observe how the police approach crisis calls.
Kroman then speaks to the team at the Downtown Emergency Service Center, one of Seattle’s largest nonprofits serving the homeless. Although they have some appreciation for cops like Grayson, they argue that there must be a better way to help people in crisis.
This six-part podcast, produced by Sara Bernard, takes a close look at challenges of policing today and whether it’s even possible to downsize the police force and create a new public safety regime that is more equitable and safe.
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Credits
Host, producer: Sara Bernard
Reporter: David Kroman
Story editor: Donna Gordon Blankinship
Executive producer: Mark Baumgarten
Full transcript available here.